Comments on: Unpardonable Sin http://www.bible-knowledge.com/unpardonable-sin/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:42:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: KSoMn http://www.bible-knowledge.com/unpardonable-sin/comment-page-1/#comment-10096 KSoMn Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:44:17 +0000 http://www.bible-knowledge.com/?page_id=95#comment-10096 It's funny how the "Father of the Lie" never lied in the Bible.. Genesis 2:17 "but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.” Genesis 3:3 ""It's only the fruit from the tree in the middle of the garden that we are not allowed to eat. God said, 'You must not eat it or even touch it; if you do, you will die.' 4 . "You won't die!" the serpent replied to the woman. "For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil." Genesis 3:22 "And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."" So... they ate of a tree that they were told would kill them on the day they ate of it... Satan told them they wouldn't die.. but would be like God.. in Genesis 3:22 god himself says "The man has now become like one of us." Who lied? In Job... Job 1:11, Satan says to God.. "But put forth your hand, and touch all that he has, and he will curse you to your face." And god said.. Job 1:12 "The Lord said to Satan, "Behold all that he has is in your power; only upon himself do not put your hand" In Job 38:1, and 40:1 and 2.. Job questions Gods righteousness... Satan never lied.. God says, give no glory to other gods... and now there is a man that says we can only talk to God through him... a man that warns of ultimate destruction if we question him.. and an entire book of Revelation warning people of the destruction of false religion.. Satan never goes after Gods glory. But rather accepts that fact that we are flawed.. he see's it... how can it be said that addressing human imperfection is a slight against God? Or an attempt to steal his glory? It’s funny how the “Father of the Lie” never lied in the Bible..

Genesis 2:17 “but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.”

Genesis 3:3 “”It’s only the fruit from the tree in the middle of the garden that we are not allowed to eat. God said, ‘You must not eat it or even touch it; if you do, you will die.’ 4 . “You won’t die!” the serpent replied to the woman. “For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

Genesis 3:22 “And the LORD God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”"

So… they ate of a tree that they were told would kill them on the day they ate of it… Satan told them they wouldn’t die.. but would be like God.. in Genesis 3:22 god himself says “The man has now become like one of us.”

Who lied?

In Job… Job 1:11, Satan says to God.. “But put forth your hand, and touch all that he has, and he will curse you to your face.”

And god said.. Job 1:12 “The Lord said to Satan, “Behold all that he has is in your power; only upon himself do not put your hand”

In Job 38:1, and 40:1 and 2.. Job questions Gods righteousness…

Satan never lied.. God says, give no glory to other gods… and now there is a man that says we can only talk to God through him… a man that warns of ultimate destruction if we question him.. and an entire book of Revelation warning people of the destruction of false religion.. Satan never goes after Gods glory. But rather accepts that fact that we are flawed.. he see’s it… how can it be said that addressing human imperfection is a slight against God? Or an attempt to steal his glory?

]]> By: Pete Browder http://www.bible-knowledge.com/unpardonable-sin/comment-page-1/#comment-8956 Pete Browder Thu, 22 Dec 2011 23:29:29 +0000 http://www.bible-knowledge.com/?page_id=95#comment-8956 Would this subject be in the Word if it were a non-issue? Not hardly. The Word predicts a great apostasy where many will fall away from the faith and denounce Jesus as the Christ. Faith required for salvation is not just to believe in God, even the demons believe and tremble. We should understand that while we are not saved by works, Godly, living faith yields works and any faith not accompanied by works is dead. Relationships require service after the sale in order for them to remain healthy. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of all wisdom. To blaspheme against the Holy Spirit is for God to reveal himself to us but for us to insult him by refusing his call. Would this subject be in the Word if it were a non-issue? Not hardly. The Word predicts a great apostasy where many will fall away from the faith and denounce Jesus as the Christ. Faith required for salvation is not just to believe in God, even the demons believe and tremble. We should understand that while we are not saved by works, Godly, living faith yields works and any faith not accompanied by works is dead. Relationships require service after the sale in order for them to remain healthy. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of all wisdom. To blaspheme against the Holy Spirit is for God to reveal himself to us but for us to insult him by refusing his call.

]]> By: Paul http://www.bible-knowledge.com/unpardonable-sin/comment-page-1/#comment-8926 Paul Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:10:06 +0000 http://www.bible-knowledge.com/?page_id=95#comment-8926 I believe that the concern that most believers have with this idea of unpardonable sin, is that they might some how accidentally commit that sin. Ladies and gentlemen, that is utterly impossible to do. It CANNOT happen accidentally. You would have to make a VERY direct proclamation to the Lord that you no longer believe in him (And by the way, you have to FIRST believe before you can un-believe). OR that you are going to betray him and worship Satan himself. We all know that BELIEF and FAITH is what saves us. Now, what's the problem with the former scenario? How can you proclaim anything to someone who doesn't exist? In the ladder, I believe that this could damn you to Hell. You are getting exactly what you choose. But again, you are very actively making that choice well on your own. And to call out the Holy Spirits miracles as being Satan's is again the result of a free choice you make to deny what you already know is true. Look, we have been given the gift of free will, which is really the essence of God's love for us....the freedom to choose. Isn't that what we all want, we know it's just and btw, how could you love a robot programmed to do whatever you tell it. Anyway, the bottom line is this. God is not some bitter, angry and revengeful person who is just waiting to strike us down the second we step out of line. He's already shown that by sacrificing His son that he wants redemption for us. But He has to allow us to CHOOSE that gift of redemption through Jesus Christ on our own. I will say it again. You HAVE to ACTUALLY BELIEVE before you can commit this sin. So it is for all intents and purposes a non-issue. You can rest in God's compassion and love for you and know that you are saved because you have accepted Christ as your savior. He has done the redemptive work!! You can not earn your salvation by following a set of rules, including this one we are focused on right now. If you think you are not saved, then maybe you haven't fully accepted Christ in your life. Just surrender to Him now and allow Him to remove this burden from you. He wants you to live your life to it's fullest extent with Him living in you and you in Him. Accept His GRACE fully and you will not have to be bound by the guilt and shame of your past, present or future sins anymore. ALL sins have been erased. “Come to me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.” (Matthew 11:28). “Cast your burden on the Lord, and He shall sustain you; He shall never permit the righteous to be moved.” (Psalm 55:22) “There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus …” (Romans 8:1)“In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace.” (Ephesians 1:7) I believe that the concern that most believers have with this idea of unpardonable sin, is that they might some how accidentally commit that sin. Ladies and gentlemen, that is utterly impossible to do. It CANNOT happen accidentally. You would have to make a VERY direct proclamation to the Lord that you no longer believe in him (And by the way, you have to FIRST believe before you can un-believe). OR that you are going to betray him and worship Satan himself. We all know that BELIEF and FAITH is what saves us. Now, what’s the problem with the former scenario? How can you proclaim anything to someone who doesn’t exist? In the ladder, I believe that this could damn you to Hell. You are getting exactly what you choose. But again, you are very actively making that choice well on your own. And to call out the Holy Spirits miracles as being Satan’s is again the result of a free choice you make to deny what you already know is true. Look, we have been given the gift of free will, which is really the essence of God’s love for us….the freedom to choose. Isn’t that what we all want, we know it’s just and btw, how could you love a robot programmed to do whatever you tell it. Anyway, the bottom line is this. God is not some bitter, angry and revengeful person who is just waiting to strike us down the second we step out of line. He’s already shown that by sacrificing His son that he wants redemption for us. But He has to allow us to CHOOSE that gift of redemption through Jesus Christ on our own. I will say it again. You HAVE to ACTUALLY BELIEVE before you can commit this sin. So it is for all intents and purposes a non-issue. You can rest in God’s compassion and love for you and know that you are saved because you have accepted Christ as your savior. He has done the redemptive work!! You can not earn your salvation by following a set of rules, including this one we are focused on right now. If you think you are not saved, then maybe you haven’t fully accepted Christ in your life. Just surrender to Him now and allow Him to remove this burden from you. He wants you to live your life to it’s fullest extent with Him living in you and you in Him. Accept His GRACE fully and you will not have to be bound by the guilt and shame of your past, present or future sins anymore. ALL sins have been erased. “Come to me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.” (Matthew 11:28). “Cast your burden on the Lord, and He shall sustain you; He shall never permit the righteous to be moved.” (Psalm 55:22) “There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus …” (Romans 8:1)“In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace.” (Ephesians 1:7)

]]> By: Pete Browder http://www.bible-knowledge.com/unpardonable-sin/comment-page-1/#comment-8820 Pete Browder Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:38:52 +0000 http://www.bible-knowledge.com/?page_id=95#comment-8820 Jesus was first to reveal the nature of the unpardonable sin in Matthew 12:30-32 and Mark 3:22-30. We simply learn from these scriptures that anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit commits as sin which is unforgivable. But as to the details of this sin, many are left perplexed and afraid for their salvation. In order to gain a better understanding what it means to "blaspheme" against the Holy Spirit, we must closely study Hebrews 6:4-6. In this passage we learn that those of us who have been elightened, tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age yet subsequently fall away cannot be brought back to repentance. What I believe Paul is describing in this passage is precisely, in great detail, what it means to blaspheme against the Holy Spirit. Paul is describing an individual who God has chosen to reveal himself to by the power of Holy Spirit. This goes far beyond the tingle up our spine that one might get when we are moved by praise music or a scripture that hits close to home. This person has "tasted" and seen the power of God to such an extent that it should be inconceivable to deny his call. This experience could be called a "burning bush" type event or events. Right before Jesus discusses the unpardonable sin in both gospels,he had just performed an awesome miracle by the power of the Holy Spirit where a demon-possessed, blind and mute man was completely healed. All in attendance were blessed to have seen the power of God and should have been convinced to serve the Lord. Matt. 12:23 says, "All the people were astonished and said, 'Could this be the son of David?" Yet, unfortunately, the reaction of the Pharisees was to say, "It is only by Beelzebub, the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons." Clearly, to see the power of the Holy Spirit in action and to show utter contempt of the power of almighty God is blasphemous. This principle of God is also presented to us and fully supported in Numbers 14:22-23 where God says to Moses,"not one of the men who saw my glory and the miraculous signs I performed in Egypt and in the desert but who disobeyed me and tested me ten times--not one of them will ever see the land I promised on oath to their forefathers. No one who has treated me with contempt will ever see it." I venture to say that few of us have had the opportunity to commit such blasphemy. However, we are all required to persevere to keep the faith and faithfulness(obedience). I hope this has helped someone besides me. God bless. Jesus was first to reveal the nature of the unpardonable sin in Matthew 12:30-32 and Mark 3:22-30. We simply learn from these scriptures that anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit commits as sin which is unforgivable. But as to the details of this sin, many are left perplexed and afraid for their salvation.

In order to gain a better understanding what it means to “blaspheme” against the Holy Spirit, we must closely study Hebrews 6:4-6. In this passage we learn that those of us who have been elightened, tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age yet subsequently fall away cannot be brought back to repentance. What I believe Paul is describing in this passage is precisely, in great detail, what it means to blaspheme against the Holy Spirit.

Paul is describing an individual who God has chosen to reveal himself to by the power of Holy Spirit. This goes far beyond the tingle up our spine that one might get when we are moved by praise music or a scripture that hits close to home. This person has “tasted” and seen the power of God to such an extent that it should be inconceivable to deny his call. This experience could be called a “burning bush” type event or events.

Right before Jesus discusses the unpardonable sin in both gospels,he had just performed an awesome miracle by the power of the Holy Spirit where a demon-possessed, blind and mute man was completely healed.

All in attendance were blessed to have seen the power of God and should have been convinced to serve the Lord. Matt. 12:23 says, “All the people were astonished and said, ‘Could this be the son of David?” Yet, unfortunately, the reaction of the Pharisees was to say, “It is only by Beelzebub, the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons.” Clearly, to see the power of the Holy Spirit in action and to show utter contempt of the power of almighty God is blasphemous.

This principle of God is also presented to us and fully supported in Numbers 14:22-23 where God says to Moses,”not one of the men who saw my glory and the miraculous signs I performed in Egypt and in the desert but who disobeyed me and tested me ten times–not one of them will ever see the land I promised on oath to their forefathers. No one who has treated me with contempt will ever see it.”

I venture to say that few of us have had the opportunity to commit such blasphemy. However, we are all required to persevere to keep the faith and faithfulness(obedience). I hope this has helped someone besides me. God bless.

]]> By: Leila http://www.bible-knowledge.com/unpardonable-sin/comment-page-1/#comment-8512 Leila Sat, 26 Nov 2011 21:12:26 +0000 http://www.bible-knowledge.com/?page_id=95#comment-8512 Are there any apostles today? Are there any apostles today?

]]> By: Leila http://www.bible-knowledge.com/unpardonable-sin/comment-page-1/#comment-8511 Leila Sat, 26 Nov 2011 21:11:34 +0000 http://www.bible-knowledge.com/?page_id=95#comment-8511 Correcting my earlier statement, what I meant was... "how much your statement meant". Thank you. Correcting my earlier statement, what I meant was… “how much your statement meant”. Thank you.

]]> By: Leila http://www.bible-knowledge.com/unpardonable-sin/comment-page-1/#comment-8510 Leila Sat, 26 Nov 2011 21:07:40 +0000 http://www.bible-knowledge.com/?page_id=95#comment-8510 Brandon, thank you. You have no idea how much your statement made. Bless you. Brandon, thank you. You have no idea how much your statement made. Bless you.

]]> By: Brandon http://www.bible-knowledge.com/unpardonable-sin/comment-page-1/#comment-8321 Brandon Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:37:40 +0000 http://www.bible-knowledge.com/?page_id=95#comment-8321 This is something that i struggled with for a long time,I am 30 y/o and when i was about 20 i once yelled at God Himself and used a bad word and almost in a way suggesting that He had left me in a time that i needed Him the most, so for years i paid for this in many ways with hard times,an unclear mind and always believing that God would not forgive me for what i have done, but one day at my lowest point in my life "and i mean very low" my Loving God out of nowhere told me that He loved me, i mean He actually spoke to me through a complete stranger just out of nowhere, and i knew that this was'nt just by chance, He chose a time and place so i would have no doubt it was Him speaking to me, but even after this i thought to myself well God yes now i know that You love me but that dosent mean You forgive me, boy that was like slapping myself in the face, first of all if God takes the time to let you know that He loves you than thats pretty much a sign that He has forgiven you as well, you see even if you did something that man would never forgive you for and would say how unjust and blah blah you are for doing this than they are just as guilty for judging you, we only have One Judge "GOD ALMIGHTY", my God dosent go by mans rules, man goes by His and He will forgive whoever,whenever He wants to, God dosent do anything half way He is a God of forgiveness, mercy and love all at the Same time, just know in your hearts that God is a loving God but He is also a Just God and though i payed for my sins with a struggled life i now know that He was there with me the whole time and believe me it was Nothing compared to what my Lord suffered on the Cross, it was me who turned my face from Him, He Never turned his face away from me and i will love, cherish, obey and follow Him the rest of my days through good or bad times, He is the same God that has never left nore forsaken me. So to you out there who are worried if God still loves you and will forgive you, well He sent you to this letter from me for a reason, HE LOVES AND FORGIVES YOU, YES IM TALKING TO YOU, pray hard, read His Word and always love Him because He sure loves you,take time to listen to Him, He will speak to you also in random ways, dont stress over hearing His voice shout at you like a loud trumpet, sometimes its just a whisper, sometimes its through someone else like it was for me, be patient and love our God, I hope to see you in heaven, i love you all ;) This is something that i struggled with for a long time,I am 30 y/o and when i was about 20 i once yelled at God Himself and used a bad word and almost in a way suggesting that He had left me in a time that i needed Him the most, so for years i paid for this in many ways with hard times,an unclear mind and always believing that God would not forgive me for what i have done, but one day at my lowest point in my life “and i mean very low” my Loving God out of nowhere told me that He loved me, i mean He actually spoke to me through a complete stranger just out of nowhere, and i knew that this was’nt just by chance, He chose a time and place so i would have no doubt it was Him speaking to me, but even after this i thought to myself well God yes now i know that You love me but that dosent mean You forgive me, boy that was like slapping myself in the face, first of all if God takes the time to let you know that He loves you than thats pretty much a sign that He has forgiven you as well, you see even if you did something that man would never forgive you for and would say how unjust and blah blah you are for doing this than they are just as guilty for judging you, we only have One Judge “GOD ALMIGHTY”, my God dosent go by mans rules, man goes by His and He will forgive whoever,whenever He wants to, God dosent do anything half way He is a God of forgiveness, mercy and love all at the Same time, just know in your hearts that God is a loving God but He is also a Just God and though i payed for my sins with a struggled life i now know that He was there with me the whole time and believe me it was Nothing compared to what my Lord suffered on the Cross, it was me who turned my face from Him, He Never turned his face away from me and i will love, cherish, obey and follow Him the rest of my days through good or bad times, He is the same God that has never left nore forsaken me. So to you out there who are worried if God still loves you and will forgive you, well He sent you to this letter from me for a reason, HE LOVES AND FORGIVES YOU, YES IM TALKING TO YOU, pray hard, read His Word and always love Him because He sure loves you,take time to listen to Him, He will speak to you also in random ways, dont stress over hearing His voice shout at you like a loud trumpet, sometimes its just a whisper, sometimes its through someone else like it was for me, be patient and love our God, I hope to see you in heaven, i love you all ;)

]]> By: D Taylor http://www.bible-knowledge.com/unpardonable-sin/comment-page-1/#comment-8292 D Taylor Tue, 15 Nov 2011 04:47:19 +0000 http://www.bible-knowledge.com/?page_id=95#comment-8292 Just like to add a little information to go along with my first post. The Blasphemy Against the Holy Spirit has to be taken in the context that it is found in the Bible in Matthew 12 and this is the only context in which this sin is found. The sin (the unpardonable sin) was not an individual sin but a national sin. The sin was committed by that generation of Israel in Jesus day(when he was physically present on earth) and cannot be applied to subsequent Jewish generations or to any individual today. The sin's content was the national rejection of the Messiahship of Jesus while He was physically present on the grounds that He was demon possessed. The sin was unpardonable and judgment was set and the judgment came in the year 70 A.D. If you will notice the change in Jesus ministry after chapter 12 He spoke to the people in parables which they did not understand but before chapter 12 Jesus spoke clearly and the people understood what He said. Also there was a change in the purpose of His miracles after chapter 12, before chapter 12 the miracles were to authenticate His person that he was the Messiah after chapter 12 His miracles were for training the disciples for their upcoming ministry. I could add more but again I would recommend The Footsteps of the Messiah. I just touched on a few basic points in this post, again a very detail explanation is given in Footsteps of the Messiah. This is a very misunderstood area of the Bible and also a very important part of Jesus time on earth. Just like to add a little information to go along with my first post.
The Blasphemy Against the Holy Spirit has to be taken in the context that it is found in the Bible in Matthew 12 and this is the only context in which this sin is found. The sin (the unpardonable sin) was not an individual sin but a national sin. The sin was committed by that generation of Israel in Jesus day(when he was physically present on earth) and cannot be applied to subsequent Jewish generations or to any individual today. The sin’s content was the national rejection of the Messiahship of Jesus while He was physically present on the grounds that He was demon possessed. The sin was unpardonable and judgment was set and the judgment came in the year 70 A.D.
If you will notice the change in Jesus ministry after chapter 12 He spoke to the people in parables which they did not understand but before chapter 12 Jesus spoke clearly and the people understood what He said. Also there was a change in the purpose of His miracles after chapter 12, before chapter 12 the miracles were to authenticate His person that he was the Messiah after chapter 12 His miracles were for training the disciples for their upcoming ministry.
I could add more but again I would recommend The Footsteps of the Messiah. I just touched on a few basic points in this post, again a very detail explanation is given in Footsteps of the Messiah. This is a very misunderstood area of the Bible and also a very important part of Jesus time on earth.

]]> By: Pete Browder http://www.bible-knowledge.com/unpardonable-sin/comment-page-1/#comment-8074 Pete Browder Sat, 05 Nov 2011 13:32:37 +0000 http://www.bible-knowledge.com/?page_id=95#comment-8074 The answer to the question of unpardonable sin (Blasphemy Against the Holy Spirit) is answered in God's Word and the Word is presented and explained very well in this article. I would add to the scritural reference,2 Peter 2: 10-12 (NIV), which discusses false prophets and teachers who blaspheme and slander "celestial beings; yet even angels." We are cautioned by Peter against all such blasphemy. How much more should we be careful to avoid any sort of blasphemy against THE HOLY SPIRIT. Verse 12 says,"But these men blaspheme in matters that they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish." The answer to the question of unpardonable sin (Blasphemy Against the Holy Spirit) is answered in God’s Word and the Word is presented and explained very well in this article. I would add to the scritural reference,2 Peter 2: 10-12 (NIV), which discusses false prophets and teachers who blaspheme and slander “celestial beings; yet even angels.” We are cautioned by Peter against all such blasphemy. How much more should we be careful to avoid any sort of blasphemy against THE HOLY SPIRIT. Verse 12 says,”But these men blaspheme in matters that they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.”

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