The Rapture

The Rapture From The Bible

Here is the 50 million dollar question – will there be a Rapture of God’s saints before the Tribulation, or will all of God’s people living at that time have to go through the Tribulation and possibly be martyred for their faith?

I am going to go ahead and give you the main verses from Scripture that deal with the possibility of a Rapture. There is major divided opinion in the Body of Christ right now as to whether or not there is going to be a Rapture.

Each one of you will have to come to your own conclusion on this issue per your own interpretation of the Scripture verses I will list below. I will give you my opinion on this subject, along with pointing out key words and phrases in the following verses.

As you will see in the following verses, I believe there is very strong evidence from Scripture that there will be a Rapture – and that it will occur before the Antichrist starts the persecution of God’s saints, and before God starts to pour out His wrath upon the earth during the 7 year Tribulation. In other words, it will be a pre-tribulation Rapture.

1.  This first verse is very interesting. You already know that one of the names of the Antichrist is the “lawless one” per the Scripture verse I gave you in my first article. This verse is definitely talking about the Antichrist. Here is the verse:

“And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.” (2 Thessalonians 2:6-8)

You know the lawless one is referring to the Antichrist because then the verse says that Jesus will destroy him when He comes back for the second time.

But look very closely at the phrase, “only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed …” The “H” in the word “He” is a capital H in the New King James Version of the Bible. This means “He” is either referring to God, Jesus, or the Holy Spirit.

Since God and Jesus are in heaven right now, the “He” has to be referring to the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit has always been referred to as the One who restrains evil from getting out of control on this earth.


It says that the Antichrist cannot be revealed until “He” is taken out of the way. Since we know the Holy Spirit still has to be down here even if there is a Rapture, then who is “He” referring to?

If there is a Rapture, there still will be a multitude of people who are going to get saved and then martyred. If they are saved, then they are sealed with the Holy Spirit, which means the Holy Spirit is living on the inside of them like He is with us.

I believe the “He” may be referring to the “Holy Spirit operating through the Church.” This means that the Body of Christ, the Church, will be what is taken out before the Antichrist can be revealed.

Think about this. The Antichrist is going to be very easy to spot once he starts to enter onto the world scene. All of the Scripture verses I gave you on the Antichrist and 7 year Tribulation spell out exactly what is going to occur, and there will be more than enough astute Christians out there who are going to be able to pick up who he is once all of these events start to occur.

With some of the powerful TV ministries that we now have in place, I am sure that the Body of Christ will be shouting from the rooftops once the Antichrist is spotted.

The word would be spread very quickly and it would then become very hard for the Antichrist to rise to the kind of power that the Bible is foretelling.

I believe the Church has to be taken out as the above verse is stating before the Antichrist can be revealed to the rest of the world. And the above verse states that the Antichrist will not be revealed until “He” who is restraining him is taken out of the way!

Once the Body of real believers are raptured off the face of the earth, there will nothing left that will be able to stop the Antichrist from rising to full power. The rest of the world is going to be easily duped into believing in this man – especially with all of the false signs and wonders that will be performed on his behalf by the False Prophet.

I believe the above verse alone is very strong Scriptural evidence that there will be a Rapture of God’s saints before the Antichrist actually rises to full power.

2.  This next verse talks about those who are “alive” will be “caught up” to meet the Lord in the “air.” Here is the verse:

“For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be CAUGHT UP together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.” (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17)

This verse really seems to be implying that there will be a group of saints who are going to “caught up” or pulled up to meet the Lord in the air while we are still alive! These words spell possible Rapture to me.

3.  The next verse tells us of a “mystery” – that not all of God’s saints are going to “sleep” – and that this group is going to be changed in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, and that this event will occur at the last trumpet.

I believe the Last Trumpet is God’s last call to His people, and that it implies that whoever is saved and born again when this trumpet sounds off will be raptured and spared from having to go through the horrors of the 7 year Tribulation.

I believe the word “mystery” is being used to let us know that God is keeping the possibility of a Rapture a secret and a mystery to the rest of the world. This is why many of the Scripture verses pertaining to this event do not perfectly spell it out. However, there is enough of a hint in these verses for God’s own people to pick it up, but not the rest of the unbelieving world. Here is the verse:

Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall be changed – in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet.” (1 Corinthians 15:51)

I believe the words “last trumpet” tells us this event will occur at the end of times. The words “shall be changed in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye,” really do describe what could be a Rapture – the immediate vanishing and disappearance of God’s people from the face of the earth in the snap of a finger.

4.  This next verse is coming direct from Jesus Himself out of the Book of Revelation. Here is the verse:

“Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.” (Revelation 3:10)

This verse could be literal interpretation – that Jesus will keep His Body of believers who are living at this time out of the hands of the Antichrist. He obviously will do it by either rapturing them off the face of the earth, or by providing them with some kind of physical protection if there will be no Rapture. My guess is that He will do this by rapturing them off the face of this earth.

5.  Here is another verse from Jesus stating that we watch and pray that we be counted worthy to escape all the things that may be coming our way in the end times.

“Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.” (Luke 21:36)

This verse really seems to be implying once again that God is going to allow His own to escape or be prevented from having to go through the horrific events of the Tribulation.

6.  Now here are some additional verses that are not quite as strong as the above verses, but do suggest the possibility that God will keep us from these horrific events.

“… and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.” (1 Thessalonians 1:10)

This verse either means Jesus will deliver us before the wrath comes, which would line up with a Rapture, or it may mean when He comes down for the second time at the battle of Armageddon to put an end to all of the carnage with the Antichrist.

For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.” (1 Thessalonians 5:9)

This verse could be implying that His Body will not be appointed or be subject to the events of the Tribulation – or the wrath could simply be pointing to people going to hell for refusing to accept Jesus and His gift of eternal salvation.

Conclusion

If there is going to be a Rapture, I believe that God will rapture His believers off this earth sometime before the start of the 7 year Tribulation.

I do not think He will wait to the midpoint of the Tribulation where the Antichrist seats himself in the Temple proclaiming himself to be God and then starts the persecution of God’s saints.

I believe the Antichrist will be fully revealed to the world near the beginning of the 7 year Tribulation when he enters into a peace treaty and covenant with Israel, and then allows them to start rebuilding their Temple so he can eventually get into it at the midpoint of the Tribulation to proclaim himself to be God.

And remember the very first verse above, that the Antichrist cannot be revealed until “He” is taken out of the way. And when “He” is taken out of the way, then the Antichrist can be fully revealed to the rest of the world. And the “He” in my opinion may be the main Body of believers who are living at the time of these events.

The other reason I think the Rapture will occur sometime before the start of the 7 year Tribulation is that the Antichrist is going to need some time to set things up.

Once the Church is taken out, he will be free to start operating at full throttle.

The first thing he is going to do is convince and persuade the rest of the world to follow him, and I feel he will first do this by trickery and deception. If he starts the mass persecution too early on those who will not accept and take his mark, he will risk not being able to gain full control of everything.

I believe he will first suck everyone in by peace and diplomacy and the promise of a better world.

Then once he has enough of the nations on his side and the Jewish Temple has once more rebuilt, that will be the time he will then go for all of the marbles. He will seat himself up in the Temple at the midpoint of the Tribulation, proclaim himself to be God, kill anyone who will not accept his mark, and will then seek total world domination and control.

Think about this. This one man, through the power of Satan, will get a chance to have more power and more control over the entire world than any other man has ever had during the entire course of our human history. This will be the ultimate ego trip for a power hungry human being.

I believe that the last three and half years of the Tribulation are going to be the last and final history lesson from God to us.

With the Church being taken out of the way so Satan and the Antichrist can operate at full throttle, I believe that God is going to show all of us how much terror, death, and destruction humans and demons are capable of committing if given half the chance without God directly intervening.

In three and half years, Satan and the Antichrist are going to cause so much death and destruction on this earth, that Jesus Himself says that had these days not been shortened by God the Father Himself – that no flesh would have been saved! I really feel that Satan, if he knew he had the chance, would set up the entire scenario with the Antichrist to destroy the entire world through nuclear weaponry.

Satan already knows he is defeated. He already knows he will eventually end up in the Lake of Fire and Brimstone for all of eternity. He knows that this will be his last chance for mass destruction and terror.

If God would allow Satan anymore time than these three and half years, I really believe Satan would set the world up for mass destruction through nuclear weapons. He would then have the satisfaction that he literally destroyed the entire world before he goes to his final fate.

But thank our God, He will not allow this scenario to go this far. But God is going to allow it to go far enough to teach all of us a lesson that we will never, ever forget.

He is going to show us how quickly humans can be deceived by Satan and his demons, and the only thing that has kept this world in one piece throughout human history has simply been the power and restraining force of God the Father Himself operating through the Holy Spirit.

Bottom line – there is only maximum life with God or maximum death without Him.

The last three and half years of the Tribulation will show us what maximum death will really be like when God removes His Church off the face of this earth, and then allows the Devil and the Antichrist to do what they want with the power that will be given to them.

After we watch and see all of these horrific events unfold, we will never, ever want to forsake our God again. We will come to the full realization that without God in our lives – we can never have true happiness, joy, love, peace, or fulfillment in our lives.

Without God in our lives, there is only eventual maximum death – and the last three and half years of this Tribulation is going to prove that point once and for all to all of us. It will be the greatest history lesson that the world will ever receive – and something that we will never, ever forget for the rest of our eternal lives.

Will there be a Rapture?

You will each have to decide for yourselves on the way the above Scripture verses are being worded. My own personal conclusion, after putting all the above verses together like pieces to a jigsaw puzzle, is that there will be a Rapture, and that it will occur sometime before the beginning of the 7 year Tribulation.

I believe the Rapture is a “mystery” from God and that it is “hidden” in the above verses. God does not want the rest of the unbelieving world to have full access to this mystery, otherwise people will be accepting His gift of eternal salvation for the wrong reasons – to escape the coming horrors of the Tribulation and not with a true, repentant heart to want to accept Jesus as their personal Lord and Savior for the sinners that we all truly are.

Again, you may want to put this article on the shelf in the event that we start to fast approach end time events in our lifetime. This article will make for good debate with other Christians who may not believe in the Rapture.

Next article in this series: “Warning – Do Not Take the Mark of the Beast.

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  1. Jonthan says:

    Brother you are confused and the spirit of the whore church has made you fall astray,

    luke 17:33 to 37

    just like it was in the days of noah people were eating and drinking, and the flood came and destroyed them ALL, so shall it be in the days the son of man is reaveled
    two shall be in the field, one will be taken and one will be left,
    and the disciples asked him “lord WHERE” AND jesus answered “WHERE THERE IS A DEAD BODY AND THE VULTURES GATHER

    There is going to be judgement and those whom are taken will be killed, this is after the tribulations

    Matthew 24 ;5 to 36

    and there will be great tribulations and then AFTER THESE THINGS, THE SON OF MAN SHALL GATHER HIS ELECT

    1 THESOLONIANS 4:16 IS TALKING ABOUT AFTER THE END, AND YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU READ

    IT STARTS BY SAYING

    Those of us whom REMAIN, And are alive….. Notice it says ALIVE and Remain, in matthew 24 33 to 36 says there will be some taken, being taken is death and this verse starts off with Alive and REMAIn, so there will be a rapture but it’s at the end not before the tribulatoin

  2. Ewa says:

    Hello there,

    I didn’t say the Rapture is coming, I only explained what the Holy Bible states it’s part of Divine plan, and yes only God the Father knows the time.
    It doesn’t matter when, what really should matter to Christians is “to live by” 10 Commandments Lord gave us.

    God Bless

  3. Ernest Mampuru says:

    I am happy that you all believe that rapture is coming, but the question is when.
    the bible says no one knows the day and the hour when the Lord Christ Jesus will come and no matter what will happen on that day, God’s grace will be there to protect you. Jesus says all things shall pass away, but his word shall stand. This simply means all his promises will still work in our favor.

  4. Ewa says:

    Hello,
    Yes, Rapture will happen first Bible says that clearly why? At the time there will be Saints living among the rest, so they must be removed from the Earth since they are ready to live in Heaven and wouldn’t be able to withstand EVIL that Antichrist will bring to Earth, the remaining people and among them Christian will have to live through ANTICHRIST time. During this time some will have the change of hearts and it will be converted (they will become Apostles) these people who will die for Jesus will be saved and the rest will be left behind and will end up in Hell as a final destination.
    God Bless you

  5. Heather says:

    Thank you! These verses are so comforting to God’s children. I wanted to add a couple more that I believe pertains to the rapture as well. Isaiah 26: 19-21 But your dead will live, their bodies will rise. You who dwell in the dust, wake up and shout for joy. Your dew is like the dew of the morning; the earth will give birth to her dead. ( watch carefully) Go, my people, enter your rooms and shut the doors behind you; hide yourselves for a little while until His wrath has passed by. See,the Lord is coming out of His dwelling to punish the people of the earth for their sins. The earth will disclose the bloodshed upon her; she will conceal her slain no longer.
    2nd verse Psalms 27:5-6 For in the day of trouble He will keep me safe in his dwelling; He will hide me in the shelter of His tabernacle and set me high upon a rock. Then my head will be exalted above the enemies who surround me; at His tabernacle will I sacrifice with shouts of joy; I will sing and make music to the Lord.

  6. George says:

    There most certainly will be a rapture. The actual word in scripture is “harpazo”. It means to be “caught up”. Rapture is the latin translation of the original. It’s right there in black and white 1Thessalonians 4:17. Believers will be caught up when Christ comes – it’s a done deal because God’s Word is 100% true. Please don’t deny bible truths. The only thing people continue to argue about is when this will happen. My comment below shows that the ‘Catching Up’ will happen at Christs’ return at the end of a tribulation period.
    As for the Kingdom: The origin and nature of this Kingdom, was first revealed by Daniel, and could not be more sharply defined. Jesus said: “My kingdom is not FROM hence” (John 18: 36). Daniel tells us that that there’s a Kingdom in the form of a falling Stone not made by earthly hands. This stone is launched like a torpedo from an airplane. It is “the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with the angels of his power in flaming fire, rendering vengeance” (2 Thess. 1: 7). It is exclusively a kingdom FROM on high. Its abrupt collision with world-powers is not gradual, but a sharp military overthrow. The vacuum it creates, it also fills – therefore the Kingdom is as literal and earthly as the kingdoms which came before it. It is earth’s final kingdom and royalty, imperishable, unchanging & divine. The Kingdom reigns in the sense the old kingdoms reigned with the difference being that it is God’s Kingdom and Christ is King. If the Smashing Stone written in Daniel is not a catastrophic Advent, followed by a literal Empire then all imagery is a falsehood, and language is meaningless. “Behold there came with the clouds of heaven one like unto the son of man, and there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, THAT ALL THE PEOPLES, NATIONS, AND LANGUAGES SHOULD SERVE HIM” (Dan. 7: 13). We should not misquote our Lord. Jesus said, “My Kingdom is not FROM (ek) this world”. He never said: “My Kingdom is not of this world.” The Stone descends from heaven, but it is earth which it fills. Don’t base your faith on human theology and traditional teaching like the opinions of controversialists who misquote our Lord.
    Our Lord shows us the actual descent of the Stone:- “When the Son of Man shall come in his glory” – that is, as He has already once been on earth, on the Mount of Transfiguration – “and all the angels with Him, then shall He sit on the throne of His glory: and before Him shall be gathered ALL THE NATIONS” (Matt. 25: 31). It is manifest from the thronging Angels that it is the descent of the Lord at the Second Advent, which the Saviour had just indicated:- “then shall appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven, and they shall see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and with great glory” (Matt. 24: 30). It is a judgment of “nations” – therefore not of the dead, among whom there are no nations; as the final judgment is of the dead alone (Rev. 20: 11), so this judgment is of the living alone; resurrection is never once named; and it is pre-millennial, for the Judge says, – “Come ye blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom” (Matt. 25: 34). Finally conclusive are our Saviour’s word to the Apostles : “I appoint unto you a kingdom; and ye shall sit on thrones JUDGING THE TWELVE TRIBES OF ISRAEL” (Luke 22: 29). That is, the “kingdom,” according to our Lord, is the epoch of the re-emergence of the Twelve Tribes; and so, manifestly, a fulfilment of the word which follows the prediction of His descent on Olivet, when “the Lord shall be KING OVER ALL THE EARTH” (Zech. 14: 9)

  7. James Lillo says:

    When you talk about the Anti Christ why do you ignore most of what the Bible says about him? A careful study of all Scripture says about the Anti Christ will clearly show (as the church since the Reformation believed) that it is none other than the Papacy of Rome.

    And clearly there will be no rapture!

    And there will be no 1000 year reign of Christ on earth. For didn’t Jesus say, “My kingdom is NOT of THIS WORLD “?

    Your big problem is that you take passages of the Bible that should be interpreted literally – symbolically and vice versa . The first basic rule of Bible interpretation is that you start with the clear passages, and let them help you understand those that are not all that clear.You do the opposite (esp. re. the end times).

  8. Bonita says:

    I am glad at least people are speaking and thinking about Gods word. My only comment is to rightly divide Gods word to understanding. The subject, deception in the 17th chapter, book of Luke. Stumbling blocks to us. Those in the field, one taken the other left, referring to deception the one taken is taken by deception, the one left, left in the field (earth), is left to work for the Lord. Same in the mill, one taken and one left. One is taken be deception and the other left to work for the Lord. God says, He will be happy to return and find us working. Thanks for Loving the Lord.
    – Bonita

  9. George says:

    John 16:33
    These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
    John 17:15
    I pray not that thou should take them out of the world, but that thou should keep them from the evil.

    Acts 14:22
    Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

    God allows His children to go through tribulations, but never His wrath. Being tried and tested by God is a good thing.

    1 Thessalonians 1:10
    And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

    We can expect to experience tribulations but be delivered from His wrath. This will indeed happen at the rapture. What about God’s Wrath? Clearly it starts at the 6th seal:

    Rev 6:12,17
    12. And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood…17. For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

    This shows us that first 5 seals must be various tribulations and not part of God’s wrath. These terrible things involve wars, famines, plagues, and persecutions, which Christians have lived through before. Will we have to endure these tribulations that clearly are not the wrath of God? Consider the following scriptures:

    For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: THEN WE WHICH ARE ALIVE AND REMAIN SHALL BE CAUGHT UP WITH THEM IN THE CLOUDS to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words. But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the DAY OF THE LORD so cometh as a thief in the night. (1 Thess. 4:15–5:2)

    Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the DAY OF CHRIST is at hand. (2 Thess. 2:1–2)

    The rapture happens at the same time as the Day of the Lord because we see from the previous two passages that they are talking about the rapture and call the event the Day of the Lord or the Day of Christ. Next consider Acts 2:20

    The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable DAY OF THE LORD come:

    The moon is turned to blood before the Day of the Lord. Read the verse below where we are told the moon turns blood red at the sixth seal. (Note there will be other blood moons before this but this particular one will also have the sun becoming black):

    And I beheld when he had opened the SIXTH SEAL, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; Rev 6:12

    SO….

    1. The Rapture is part of – occurs during – the Day of the Lord.
    2. The Day of the Lord occurs after the moon is turned blood red.
    3. The moon is turned blood red (& sun darkened) at the 6th seal is opened.

    THEREFORE: The rapture happens after the opening of the sixth seal.
    We’ll find confirmation of this scenario in Rev 6:15-17

    And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? Rev 6:15-17

    The kings and great men are trying to hide from the face of Him that sits on the throne. That’s Jesus. The world will only see Jesus when He appears at the rapture. We are also told God’s wrath begins at this time also.

    Christians can be subject to tribulations, but not the wrath of God which comes after the sixth seal is opened. It is only at this time that we are removed. Just like Israel in the days of Moses: they were kept safe when the plagues were happening all around them, but when the wrath of God came and killed all the first born they were saved by the “blood of the lamb” on their doorposts.

    Christians can be subject to the tribulations of the first 5 seals. We will not be taken out by a secret coming of Christ.

    One more interesting fact:

    The same day that Noah entered the ark, the flood came and killed them all.

    The same day that Lot left Sodom, fire and brimstone destroyed them all.

    The same day the church is Raptured, ON THAT DAY, THE WICKED WILL BE DESTROYED!

    I submit that those hoping to be taken out before all the ugliness comes are only playing church. God needs you to grow up as a believer, having given power and authority to His obedient, Armour-clad church. It is those who are playing church that are the ones who will be left . . . left wondering what hit them.

  10. Vanessa says:

    Good Day all,

    before I express my attitude and feelings on the rapture I wish to make know that i am one of those Christians who have this deep love for all and when putting my views over on any biblical topic i do it in love.

    first of all there is no secret rapture. I belive this word “secret” has its roots in the american society and it has become a word used in mocking the rapture. Over the years I have begun to see a split in the christian society and hate and dislike has begun to creep in becauce of the rapture.

    There are 2 main camps. one is the pretrib and one post rapture.

    Both camps fight to express their view point and thus forgetting to study the word to find themselves approved. 2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

    Many times we sit in church pews never going back home to check out if what the pastor is saying is correct.

    Might I site an example. Delaney quotes Acts 3:21 How can the “rapture” be “imminent”? Acts 3:21 says that Jesus “must” stay in heaven (He’s now there with the Father) “until the times of restitution of all things” which includes, says Scofield, “the restoration of the theocracy under David’s Son” which obviously can’t begin before or during Antichrist’s reign.

    Delaney the bible also says 1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

    Now you express yourself by saying that Jesus “must” stay in heaven. It does not mean that at all. Lets take it from the top.

    Act 3:21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

    You need to read this in context and once you do so you will get a better picture of what it means. After Jesus died he was “must” if you will be received by heaven. It further adds that Jesus will stay in heaven ( and it does not say he must stay in heaven) till the times are ready for the restitution which is the second coming. no, Jesus does not come to earth for the rapture, but we which are alive meet him in the air.

    The rapture debate will never go away and as time marches on more and more people will hate each others doctrines and despise those who support the theory of the rapture. I have even been told I am going to hell as i support the doctrine of imminence. Its suppose to be the doctrine of the devil.

    I smile and say to those who mock me well then Jesus will send me to hell for longing to see him in the air and to be be with him forever. and while I am in hell jesus will reward for longing and aching to see him in the rapture.

    Please read 2 Timothy chapter 4 verse 8.

    The rapture and those who support it feel the pain of those who say mean and nasty things about those who support it but this much I will say….as each new year approaches I say “thank you Father God for allowing me another year on hell, as it will give me time to spread the word.” And should the rapture happen then I shall look up for my redemption is near.

    If we do go through the tribulation then we should be watching out for the Anti Christ and thats not what i think Jesus wants. He wants us to look out for him. We as his bride should be longing to see his face and not the face of the Anti Christ. If that is the case then I wish to debate this with Jesus when I am judged because then the story of his return has been lied to me in his word.

    Thank you.

  11. Delaney says:

    (Thanks, Bible…. Wondering if you have already read this internet piece.)

    PRETRIB RAPTURE SECRETS

    How can the “rapture” be “imminent”? Acts 3:21 says that Jesus “must” stay in heaven (He’s now there with the Father) “until the times of restitution of all things” which includes, says Scofield, “the restoration of the theocracy under David’s Son” which obviously can’t begin before or during Antichrist’s reign. (“The Rapture Question,” by the long time No. 1 pretrib authority John Walvoord, didn’t dare to even list, in its scripture index, the too-hot-to-handle Acts 3:21!) Since Jesus can’t even leave heaven before the tribulation ends (Acts 2:34,35 echo this), the rapture therefore can’t take place before the end of the trib! (The same Acts verses were also too hot for John Darby – the so-called “father of dispensationalism” – to list in the scripture index in his “Letters”!)
    Paul explains the “times and the seasons” (I Thess. 5:1) of the catching up (I Thess. 4:17) as the “day of the Lord” (5:2) which FOLLOWS the posttrib sun/moon darkening (Matt. 24:29; Acts 2:20) WHEN “sudden destruction” (5:3) of the wicked occurs! The “rest” for “all them that believe” is tied to such destruction in II Thess. 1:6-10! (If the wicked are destroyed before or during the trib, who’d be left alive to serve the Antichrist?) Paul also ties the change-into-immortality “rapture” (I Cor. 15:52) to the posttrib end of “death” (15:54). (Will death be ended before or during the trib? Of course not! And vs. 54 is also tied to Isa. 25:8 which is Israel’s posttrib resurrection!)
    Many are unaware that before 1830 all Christians had always viewed I Thess. 4’s “catching up” as an integral part of the final second coming to earth. In 1830 this “rapture” was stretched forward and turned into a separate coming of Christ. To further strengthen their novel view, which the mass of evangelical scholars rejected throughout the 1800s, pretrib teachers in the early 1900s began to stretch forward the “day of the Lord” (what Darby and Scofield never dared to do) and hook it up with their already-stretched-forward “rapture.” Many leading evangelical scholars still weren’t convinced of pretrib, so pretrib teachers then began teaching that the “falling away” of II Thess. 2:3 is really a pretrib rapture (the same as saying that the “rapture” in 2:3 must happen before the “rapture” [“gathering”] in 2:1 can happen – the height of desperation!).
    Other Google articles on the 182-year-old pretrib rapture view include “Pretrib Rapture Politics,” “Pretrib Rapture Scholar Wannabes,” “Famous Rapture Watchers,” “Pretrib Rapture Diehards,” “X-Raying Margaret,” “Edward Irving is Unnerving,” “Thomas Ice (Bloopers),” “Walvoord Melts Ice,” “Wily Jeffrey,” “The Rapture Index (Mad Theology),” “America’s Pretrib Rapture Traffickers,” “Roots of (Warlike) Christian Zionism,” “Scholars Weigh My Research,” “Pretrib Hypocrisy,” “Appendix F: Thou Shalt Not Steal,” “Pretrib Rapture Secrecy,” “Deceiving and Being Deceived,” and “Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty” – all by the author of the bestselling book “The Rapture Plot” (see Armageddon Books).

  12. Vi says:

    Well, I may be very wrong, and believe in the rapture BUT not til the 6th seal. I think the seals could be before it all begins, as in braxton hicks labor signs. Then the trumpets with witnesses could last 3.5 years and be the first half. I believe the restrainer is Michael the archangel and the reaping with blood up to the horse’s bridles is many saints being beheaded…there could also even be a fake tribulation and fake muslim antichrist when the real one wipes out Islam setting himself up as God with strong delusion convincing people that the tribulation has ended.

  13. Mark Malmin says:

    A lot of great comments and questions have been posed here on this website. I see some comments that reflect great scholarly knowledge of scripture, but to be quite honest, also a few cases of attitude that suggest “I’m right and you’re wrong”, which comes across a little argumentative and contentious in spirit. Some of us were probably circumcised on the eighth day but We need to boast about Jesus, not our knowledge.

    We who love Jesus look for his return with great anticipation. While we wait, we labor to harvest and we influence as many as we can for the Kingdom. We need to have the mind of Christ, not the mind of argument. I can hardly wait for his return and every day I hope this will be the day. If we truly love the Lord, we ought to be excited about his return. We don’t need to fear the future, and that includes even the tribulation itself. Whatsoever things are of a good report, think on these things, (said Paul).

    Our future is in his Christ’s hands, and he is trustworthy and faithful.
    We will reign with Jesus. Whatever happens don’t be afraid. If you belong to Jesus, you’re in good hands. He didn’t bring us this far and redeem us just to abandon us in the tribulation. While my curiosity is enormous, the fact is I don’t really need to know exactly when the rapture is going to take place. I am commanded to watch and pray, and be vigilant. The bottom line is we don’t precisely know when the clock starts ticking for the tribulation. We know the midway point of the tribulation and we know the outcome. What more do we need? Jesus told us about the season of his return and that this will reveal to us that he is at the door, and that time is at hand.

    A compelling argument is made for the Feast of Trumpets being a Jewish holy time that Jesus might return. But there are other holy days that also hold great significance. Consider this: is there any day (Passover, Easter, Christmas, or other days) that wouldn’t be equally wonderful? I would be O.K. if it were on Tuesday or any other day. We are entering the season of his return.

    Jesus said: And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars”…

    It just so happens that we are about to experience an extreme Solar flare of CME energy at the end of 2012/early 2013 that has potential for catastrophic consequences according to NASA commissioned scientific research; we are experiencing severe earthquakes of increasing magnitude all over the world, famine, unparalleled evil in the world, and apostasy that Jesus described in Matthew 24:12.

    NASA calendar records show we will have a total solar eclipse on Mar 20, 2015, and FOUR BLOOD MOONS during a 12 month period on: Apr 15,2014-(on Passover), Oct 8,2014, Apr 4, 2015-(on Passover), and on Sep 28,2015-(on Feast of Trumpets)! Talk about signs in the sun, the moon and the stars!

    The “Great Tribulation” conditions that are described in Revelation 6:12-17, Rev 16:18-21, and Rev 21:1 that lead to a ‘new heaven and a new earth’ are gearing up to occur. There is quite a bit of science that explains how these things can happen during a polar shift, by either a star such as “Wormwood” described in Revelation 8:11 or by asteroids striking the earth. NASA is tracking a 10th planet dwarf star (Eris) approaching earth with infrared technology that could potentially cause some gravitational problems, but won’t say much about it. In fact, their silence is attracting considerable attention, and in their ‘good will’ desire to not create panic, they have made some contradictory, duplicitous statements. Russian media has acknowledged what NASA refuses to publicly admit. A lot of very interesting things are happening, including Israel openly discussing a preemptive attack on Iran. The season and climate are right for something significant and eternal to happen.

    Commentator #32 (Old Boxcar)on March 30th asked a provocative question about babies that might be born the day after the rapture takes place. Depending on one’s point of view, and when the clock starts ticking, such a birth could arguably occur during some phase of the tribulation.

    Here is my thought on this excellent question. Revelation speaks of those who do not accept the Mark of the Beast, and neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years (the Millennial period) [Revelation 20:4].

    Some scholars argue there is no ‘second chance’ but that argument could only apply if you missed the rapture to begin with. Since no one really knows exactly when the rapture will take place, the next thing you can do is diligently read what scripture has to say about the mark of the beast and the antichrist.

    What I found so interesting in chapter 20 of Revelation is that it speaks of Satan, the Devil, being cast into the pit and bound for a thousand years (during this millennial period). This will be a tremendous period of time, prosperity, joy and wonderful blessing, since there will be no evil around us to tempt us or produce crime and other evil or failure. The Bible says: that Satan will be cast into the bottomless pit and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should not deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season (Rev 20:3 KJV). Verse 7: And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of prison, (verse 8) and shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth…
    Why would Satan be allowed to deceive and tempt people again?

    I believe that those who somehow make it through the Tribulation, or who were born either after the rapture or during the millennium period of time, will never have been tried and tested as other saints were during an entire life time and journey of faith, daily and yearly being tempted with all manner of evil, having to make choices over whether or not to honor and serve God. Our faith is about surrendering our will to God and choosing to follow Jesus, not our own selfish, sinful desires. Our choice and participation in this journey is a factor. When we fail, we ask for forgiveness, but one has to want to be with Jesus, want to follow and serve him, and want to live with him in eternity. Simply not wanting to go to hell does not in itself qualify anyone for heaven.

    Those who live through the millennium while Satan is bound in the pit, will not yet have been tested,nor their faith tried, and they will not have been forced to make choices regarding right and wrong, good or evil, since they have not yet been exposed to evil, while Satan was bound. These people will have lived in a protected ideal world that surrounded them with goodness. If we consider that even Jesus, who was without sin, was tried and tested in the wilderness, and so have we, during our lifetime in smaller, yet real ways, then why would anyone else not be tested or tried or allowed into heaven without being tested in some practical fashion? Not being tested would seem to go contrary to common sense and scripture (Proverbs 17:3 Jeremiah 17:10).

    I don’t personally believe there will be any untried, untested people in heaven: just those who overcame adversity through the power of choosing Jesus, and accepting his blood and forgiveness. Jesus is all about choice, and it isn’t an accidental thing. It’s a deliberate choice and way of living based on his grace and forgiveness. You can’t live for Christ and at the same time be living just for yourself or the devil. Revelation 21:7 speaks of those who will live eternally with Jesus: he who overcometh shall inherit all things, and I will be his God, and he shall be my son [or daughter]. Those who live during the Millennium must be taught to follow Jesus and ‘overcome’ because they will be tested at the end of the millennium (after Satan is loosed for a season) just like all of us have been tested in our lifetimes. Those who live during the Millennium must personally choose to follow Jesus themselves. No one overcomes by simply claiming the works of others. Everyone who lives through the millennium will need to have a personal relationship with Jesus that is based on substance and choice. No one will be able to claim salvation because their parents were saved and forgiven. It reflects the paradigm of our faith: have you been forgiven and washed in the savior’s blood because you chose Jesus? The baby who is born the day after the rapture, (or during the millennium) must have a chance to make such a free-will choice of their own, and they will get the chance to make such a decision, I believe.

    Thanks for letting me share my thoughts.
    wwww.MarkMalmin.com

  14. Tom says:

    Have you read:
    Absent from the body, present with the Lord!

  15. Old Boxcar says:

    At a recent prophecy presentation at our church the floor was opened up for questions and a lady posed a question concerning babies and young children at the time of the Rapture. Some debate and discussion followed with mixed opinions about their fate. If a new born baby is taken in the rapture what about a baby born the very next day after the rapture? The questioners were asking based on their own honest concerns. Any help will be appreciated. Thank You

  16. Tom Griffin says:

    Concerning the first verse that was written. II Thes 2:6-8.
    Now let’s look at what it really says.

    II Thes 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
    2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
    4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
    5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
    6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
    7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
    8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
    9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
    10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
    11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
    12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
    13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
    14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
    15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
    16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,
    17 Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.

  17. Jon says:

    Who is wise enough to understand this?
    Who has been instructed by the LORD and can explain it?
    Why has the land been ruined and laid waste like a desert that no one can cross?

  18. Tom Griffin says:

    “RAPTURE! PROPHECY OR HERESY”

    is a book by Colonel H. Speed Wilson (Daring Publisher). Since 1989, he has offered a $10,000 reward to anyone who can prove scripturally that the Saints are taken OUT OF THE WORLD.

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