Prayer Secret #8
Praying For Something
More Than One Time
iz,
I received your email. You were asking about whether or not
you should just ask God one time for whatever you are asking
about in prayer. Apparently someone has made a statement that
you only need to petition God one time per whatever your
specific prayer request may be. He says that if you ask God
more than one time to answer your specific prayer - that you
are showing doubt and unbelief.
I will give you my own personal opinion
on this issue. I've heard this subject debated many times and
it does confuse many Christians.
First of all, if your friend is making the statement that
this principle applies for every single prayer situation that
you may find yourself in - then I believe he is dead wrong!
There are times you may only need to ask God one time for
something you may need from Him. It may be for something
trivial. The Holy Spirit will let you know that once was enough
on your prayer request. At this point, you’ll pick up an inner
knowing from the Holy Spirit to let it go and that God will
answer the prayer if it is in His will for you to have what you
are asking for.
However, there are definitely other times that
you will have to press in and ask God more than one time
for what you are praying for. This is called "prevailing
prayer." This is where you really get serious with God
on what you are praying for - and one time at the altar is
not going to cut it!
When you go into prevailing prayer, you are
seeking to move God to answer your prayer. By pressing in
and asking Him more than one time for a specific request -
you are showing God that you mean serious business with Him
and that you are not taking the matter lightly. God loves
it when His people go into this prevailing prayer mode with
Him!
Some people call this "prayer warfare" or
"wrestling with God." I’ll give you some good Scripture
verses below to back up my point on prevailing prayer and that
the Bible does show that you can "bug" God for some of your
specific prayer requests.
In addition to what I will list below, there is one book
that I believe may be one of the greatest books ever written on
prevailing prayer. The name of the book is "Mighty
Prevailing Prayer" by Wesley Duewel.
This book deals with prevailing prayer. It gives all the
Scripture verses to back up this principle, along with
incredible insight as to why God does have it set up that at
certain times you will have to go into this prevailing prayer
mode with Him to get Him to answer your specific prayer.
I guarantee you that if you read this book in its entirety,
you will be be totally convinced that prevailing prayer is
definitely biblical and that it is something that God would
love to have more of His people do. One Way bookstore used to
carry it. If they don't have it, I'm sure they can order it for
you if you want to read this book. You can also order
Mighty Prevailing Prayer through Christianbook.com.
Sometimes prevailing prayer is the only thing
that will get God to answer your prayer! The reason
prevailing prayer works so well with God is because you are
showing Him that you really want what you are asking for.
You are showing Him maximum intensity and maximum
persistence!
You are showing Him that you are willing to "pay
the price" to get Him to move by continually asking and
pressing Him to answer your prayer. You are willing to shed
some time, blood, sweat and tears if needed to get Him to
move.
Jesus says in the Book of Revelation that He will spew you
out of His mouth if He finds that you are too lukewarm. Jesus
says you are better off being too cold than too lukewarm. At
least when you are cold, you are at the other extreme end of
the scale.
It really is "all or nothing" with the Lord. Everything
about God the Father is maximum intensity, and He loves it when
His people show that same kind of intensity towards Him -
especially in the arena of prayer.
The Parent-Child Analogy
Liz, here is an analogy that I feel God gave me to fully
understand this principle. The analogy is the parent-child
analogy.
Imagine you have a 9-year-old son who you love with all of
your heart. You have established a very good loving
relationship with him. Imagine he comes up to you and he wants
something specific. A new game, a new toy, a new baseball
glove, etc. Here is what a good and loving parent will do at
times.
Kids are always asking for things all the time. It’s just in
their immature nature to want everything they see. You, as the
knowledgeable parent, will know most of the time what he really
needs and what he doesn't need. So many of the times you will
not give him everything that he will ask for.
Why? Because you know the toy or object he is asking for
will be discarded in a day or two after he gets tired of it. Or
it may something that you know that he really doesn’t want, but
he is asking just to be asking for it. And so you deny the
request. He may throw a fit for a day or two, but then he gets
over it - until the next request.
Now imagine all of a sudden your child comes up to you one
day asking for paint brushes, oil paints and a canvas. He wants
to start drawing or painting. Why? Because he saw it on TV and
he wants to see if he can actually do it.
Your first response may be not to give it to him. He is too
young. He’ll make too much of a mess. He has never shown any
artistic ability - it’ll be a complete waste of time. You don’t
think he is really serious about it and you deny his request
the first time he asks for it thinking that will be the end of
it and he’ll never ask you for it again.
Then all of a sudden, two days later, he comes back once
more asking for the paint brushes, oil paints and canvas.
However, this time he starts to become much more persuasive in
his argument to you as to why you should give it to him.
You are really not too sure of his sincerity, so you deny
his request the second time around. However, you start
wondering in the back of your mind if he really may be serious
about wanting these objects. You then decide to play it cool to
see if he’ll come back a third time. You figure if he comes
back a third time, which would be out of his normal behavior
pattern, that he may just be really serious about it and that
he really does want to explore the possibility of seeing if he
has any skills or abilities in this area.
You thus are going to test out his " intensity and
desire" for this particular request. You figure if he asks
you a third time for the paints, that you may just consider
giving it to him. Why? Because he is showing maximum
desire and maximum intensity for
wanting to do this.
Then he comes back two days later and once more asks you for
the paints. However, this time he is begging you for the
paints. He is pleading with you to give him the paints. He
simply has to have the paints. He thinks he may have some
possible artistic talent that he wants to explore. He is so
insistent this time that he simply won’t take no for an answer
- he is that determined to get this from you.
And what would be your natural, loving response to such a
"pleading request?" You'll want to immediately go out and buy
it for him. Why? Because he has shown you that he really does
want to try the painting out. It is no longer a whim - it is
now a real desire - and your love for him will want to satisfy
that desire, and you will then give it to him to see if he has
any artistic talent and allow him to explore that possibility -
all because he has shown you enough desire and intensity to
want to try it out.
And what was it that got you to do this for him?
It was his persistence, intensity and desire! He was
showing you that he really wanted the paints by continuing
to ask you for it more than just one time!
If he would have only asked one time for the
paints, he would have never received them from you because
he would not have shown you enough desire and persistence.
And it is the exact same way with God the
Father!
Sometimes God doesn’t answer some of our prayers
because we are not showing Him enough desire for the
specific thing that we are asking Him for. I wonder how
many prayers are never answered by God because He is never
approached more than one time for a specific prayer
request.
I believe that God will sometimes test your resolve on a
matter before He may consider bringing a request to you. And
one of the ways He will do this is by seeing how often and how
intensely you will ask Him in prayer for this specific
thing.
Here are several good Scripture verses to back up all of the
above.
The Scripture Verses
1. Ask-Seek-Knock
I believe this is one of the major verses in all of
Scripture on how to get answers to your prayers. However,
before Jesus goes on to state this verse, He is actually
telling a story about a man, who because of his
persistence, will get what he needs from someone else.
Even though I have talked about this verse in Prayer Secret
#5, I will go ahead and list this entire verse once again and
highlight a couple of things for you. Jesus is giving us major
revelation on the importance of being persistent with God when
He is looking for this quality to answer a specific prayer.
Here is the verse. The title of the passage is "A Friend Comes
at Midnight."
And He said to them, "Which of you shall have a
friend, and go to him at midnight and say to him, ‘Friend,
lend me three loaves; for a friend of mine has come to me
on his journey, and I have nothing to set before him;’ "and
he will answer from within and say, ‘Do not trouble me; the
door is now shut, and my children are with me in bed; I
cannot rise and give it to you’?
"I say to you, though he will not rise and give
to him because he is his friend, yet BECAUSE OF HIS
PERSISTENCE he will rise and give him as many as he
needs."
"And I say to you, ask, and it will be given to
you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened
to you." (Luke 11:5-9)
There are two things to really grab a hold of from this
verse. The first part of the verse is talking about a friend to
a man who needs bread for someone who has come to see him.
This man’s friend does not want to bother with his request
because he is asking this favor to late at night and he does
not want to get out of bed to do it. Then notice what Jesus
says next. He says that the man’s friend will not go out of his
way to give him the bread because of the late hour. However,
Jesus is implying that if the man continues to press his friend
for the loaves of bread, that his friend will end up giving in
because of his persistence and the fact that he will not let
the matter go.
Even though the story does not specifically say that the man
continues to hound his friend for the bread, Jesus is
definitely implying that this man will be given the bread if he
just continues to press the matter with his friend. Jesus is
saying this man’s friend will give him the bread not because of
their friendship - but just simply to get the man off of his
back due to his continued persistence.
I believe that Jesus is giving us a major prayer
secret with the comment that He makes off of this story.
The prayer secret would be that there could be times that
we can be persistent with God the Father on some of our
prayer requests when the need dictates. And if we show God
enough persistence and intensity in our prayers to Him,
then we may have a good chance of getting Him to grant the
prayer request - simply based upon the persistence being
shown to Him.
Secondly, Jesus then immediately goes into what I feel is
one of the most powerful Scripture verses on getting God to
answer your prayers when He states the ask-seek-knock
verse.
First of all, notice that Jesus comes in with the
ask-seek-knock verse right after telling the above story. This
means the ask-seek-knock verse is tied to and connected to the
implications of this story.
I call the ask-seek-knock verse my "fighting
verse" whenever I have to approach God in prayer for
something specific. When I first started to study this verse, I
asked the Holy Spirit exactly what was meant by it. I was
always a little perplexed about it. I thought if you had asked
and you had received what you were asking for, why would you
ever need to seek or knock?
Ask-seek-knock are three separate conditions. They are all
in the same sentence and separated by semi-colons. I thought
maybe the translators of the Bible may have made a punctuation
mistake and the semi-colons should have been periods -
completely separating the three conditions from one another.
But here is what I feel the Holy Spirit has conveyed to me on
exactly what this verse means.
The semi-colons are the correct punctuation marks to be used
in separating the three conditions from one another. What this
verse means is that sometimes all you need to do is ask God for
whatever it is you want and He will give it to you. You will
not need to seek or knock. Another time you may ask and not
receive, but you will find it as you start seeking after it. In
other words, don’t give up because you didn’t receive it when
you first asked for it. Sometimes you then have to go into the
second mode, and that is to seek after it.
This is where many Christians miss getting answers to some
of their prayers. Too many times they give up with God after
asking for it a few times. Maybe God wants to answer your
prayer, but there may be some things that He will want you to
do before answering the prayer. There may be some things you’ll
need to seek after or seek out before He will answer the
prayer. Or maybe He wants you to show Him enough persistence in
your continued asking of it.
This is where asking God more than one time to answer your
prayer comes in. When you start "hounding" or "bugging" God the
way the boy did with his mom on the oil paints, you are showing
God maximum persistence and determination - and that just may
be what will get God to answer your prayer. And Jesus is
specifically implying this in the first part of the above
passage!
Then sometimes you ask, you don’t receive, you seek, and you
don’t find. Then you are brought before the third condition -
knocking. Knocking represents an earnest desire for whatever it
is you are asking of God. Knocking means you keep knocking
until you get some kind of an answer one way or another from
God on your request.
The other thing I felt that the Holy Spirit conveyed to me
about this verse is that sometimes you may just need to meet
one of these three conditions and God will give you what you
are asking for. Ask and you will then receive - you won’t need
to seek or knock. Or you may be seeking after something, but
not really asking God for what you are actually seeking after.
God may then be moved by your intense seeking and He may all of
a sudden give you what you are seeking after even though you
had not officially asked Him for it.
This happens quite a bit on the pursuit of knowledge.
Sometimes you are trying to get revelation on something, but
you have not asked God to help you get it. Then all of a sudden
God will give you illumination through the Holy Spirit just
because you were seeking after it!
Other times, you have not asked God for something specific,
you have not sought after it, but it is something that you
would really like. You really have an earnest desire for it,
but for whatever reason, you have not pressed into God for it
either by asking or seeking after it. God may then be simply
moved by your strong desire for that something and may bring it
into your life even though you had not asked or sought after
it.
This is when God really blows you away because He knows the
true desires of your heart and He simply brought this desire
into your life because He knows you were really wanting it and
He just wanted to show you how much He loves you - the same way
a parent may buy something for the child that the child may not
have asked for. Even though the child had not asked for it, the
parent knows the child will really like and enjoy this gift, so
the parent buys it for the child as a surprise to show the
child how much he or she really loves him and that they were
thinking about the child and that they have nothing but his
best interests at heart.
The other piece of revelation that is coming off of this
verse is that sometimes you may only need to meet one of those
conditions before God will answer the prayer. At other times,
you may need to meet any two of those conditions. And at other
times, you may have to meet all three of these conditions
before God will move to answer your prayer. In other words, you
will have to ask, seek and knock for whatever it is that you
are asking God for.
How do you know which of the three conditions to go after
when you approach God for a specific prayer request? This is
where the Holy Spirit will come in. The Bible says that the
Holy Spirit is our "Helper." He is the master prayer to God the
Father. I believe that He knows most, if not all of the time,
whether or not God has any intentions on answering your
specific prayer request and if God will answer it, which of the
three conditions you will need to go into to get your prayer
answered.
Liz, I don’t know where you are in your connection with the
Holy Spirit. If you have established any kind of good personal
connection with Him - many of the times you can just "tap in"
to Him and pick up with an inner knowing as to whether or not
you should even approach God with a specific prayer request.
The first thing you will have to determine is whether or not
your specific prayer request is in God’s will for your life. If
it is not, then you will be wasting both your time and His time
by praying for it.
However, if you do receive a good "release" from the Holy
Spirit to go ahead and approach God with your specific prayer
request, the next step would be to see if the Holy Spirit will
let you know how to play the ask-seek-knock verse and which of
the 3 modes you may have to go into. Many of the times you can
just "feel it" or "sense it" in your spirit that all you have
to do is simply ask God once or twice for the request and you
don’t have to get yourself all worked up by going into the
seeking and/or knocking modes. It will that be simple.
Other times, you can pick it up from the Holy Spirit that
you are going to have to go into a continual asking and seeking
mode to persuade God to answer your prayer. You’ll have to
"pray it through" until you get a "release" from the Holy
Spirit that you are now done.
I don’t want to go any deeper on this part as this would be
another whole article itself. Just one last piece of advice on
the above verse. If you can’t seem to get any kind of "read"
from the Holy Spirit as to which mode to go into with God on
your prayer request - fall back on this: When in doubt, just
pray it out. You’ll have nothing to lose.
2. Wrestling With God
There is a very fascinating verse in the Bible about how
Jacob had wrestled with God and had prevailed. You have
probably heard this verse talked about many times in your
church. Here is the verse:
But he said, "I will not let You go unless You
bless me".... And He said, "Your name shall no longer be
called Jacob, but Israel, for you have STRUGGLED WITH GOD
and with men, and have prevailed." (Genesis
32:26)
Notice that Jacob had literally struggled with - wrestled
with God - and he had won - he had prevailed. And as a result
of wrestling with God, he was rewarded!
This also happened with Moses in the wilderness with the
children of Israel. As Moses was receiving the 10 commandments,
God gets furious with His people because they are starting to
rebel against Him at the bottom of the mountain. God gets so
mad, that He literally wants to kill and consume them.
Then Moses steps into the gap and starts wrestling
with God - pleading his case before God as to why He
should not kill them. God then changes His mind and decides not
to kill them just because Moses wrestled with Him on this
issue. Just like Jacob, Moses had wrestled with God and he had
prevailed!
These two stories are giving us a major powerful prayer
secret with God the Father. They are showing us that at certain
times, we can approach God with a very serious prayer request
and go into a "wrestling-prevailing" prayer mode with
Him. Your job is to try and convince God to answer your prayer.
God says in the Bible to approach Him and "State your case.
Let us reason together."
You obviously have to know when to be able to approach God
on this basis. This is really something that should be done "in
the Spirit." You better have a release and authorization from
the Holy Spirit before you approach God for this kind intense
wrestling match.
This type of prayer is extremely intense and will wear you
out if you are not under the Holy Spirit’s guidance and
anointing to go into it. Again, this would be a whole another
article, so I won’t go any deeper with it at this time.
But just realize that this is an option for all Christians
and there are certain situations in which you can go into this
kind of wrestling mode with God the Father. And when you do,
asking God just one time for your prayer request is obviously
not going to get the job done! You will really need to press in
to take a hold of God to try and get Him to move on your
request.
God says in the Old Testament that where are the
people who will try and take a hold of Him? He is looking
for prayer warriors. He is looking for wrestlers in the
Spirit that will wrestle with Him and try and take a hold
of Him in order to move Him to answer a specific prayer
request. He loves wrestling matches the same way young
children love to wrestle with their daddies.
3. Fervent Prayer
This next verse is another powerful verse from Scripture
that is emphasizing "fervent prayer." Again, fervent
praying is implying some level of intensity in your praying -
with the implication that asking and pressing in just one time
for your specific prayer request will not be enough to convince
and persuade God to answer your prayer. Here is the verse:
"THE EFFECTIVE, FERVENT PRAYER of a righteous
man avails much. Elijah was a man with a nature like ours,
and he PRAYED EARNESTLY that it would not rain; and it did
not rain on the land for three years and six months. And he
prayed again, and the heaven gave rain, and the earth
produced its fruit." (James 5:16-18)
Notice this Scripture verse gives Elijah as an example of
someone who was fervently praying to God for a supernatural
miracle in reference to the rain. The above verse says he
prayed "earnestly".
Even though the above verse does not tell us how many times
Elijah prayed for this miracle - the implication is really
there that he probably prayed for it more than one time. Thus
praying "earnestly and fervently" is implying a higher
level of intensity to your prayers - and I feel they are both
implying, with this higher level of intensity, that there will
be times that you will have to press in and ask God more than
one time to grant your specific prayer request.
4. Pray Without Ceasing
The next verse uses the phrase to "pray without
ceasing." You could probably look at this verse in two
ways. If your friend is correct about only needing to pray one
time for each prayer request, then this verse would mean to
pray without ceasing for a variety of different matters
because, according to him, after you pray one time for
something, you would have to move on to the next prayer request
to satisfy the conditions of this verse.
The second way to look at this verse is that it would also
apply to one specific prayer request. And you keep "praying
without ceasing" until the prayer is answered, or you get a
"release" from the Holy Spirit to stop and let the matter go. I
believe this verse is implying that both of the above scenarios
apply to it.
You may have 10 different things on the altar with God and
maybe God just wants you to ask once or twice for each issue
and then let the matter go. In your prayer session with God,
you have prayed without ceasing as you have presented each of
the 10 requests to Him and He doesn’t want you wearing yourself
out asking ten times for each request.
However, I feel this verse is also pertaining to the times
where God will want you to keep pressing Him more than one time
for one special prayer request. You continue to pray without
ceasing until God either answers the prayer or He gives you
some type of answer as to why He may not want to answer the
prayer. Here is the verse:
"Rejoice always, PRAY WITHOUT CEASING, in everything
give thanks ..." (1 Thessalonians 5:16)
A good example of praying without ceasing and praying
fervently for one special prayer request to God would be when
you are praying for someone who may be dying of an illness.
When you are looking for this big of a miracle - I personally
don’t think one time at the altar is going to cut it.
There will be times you may only have to pray one time and
God will then heal that person. However, I also believe there
are times that you will have to press in and ask God way more
than just one time to get Him to move on this type of life or
death situation.
I know you just had a boy die of cancer in your church just
recently. I also know people in your church were praying way
more than one time for his healing. I don’t know if you were
one of them praying for his healing - but if you were, can you
imagine just asking God once or twice for the healing, and then
letting it go with that boy’s life on the line?
I believe people’s spirits were crying out to press into God
more than one time to try and get Him to move in with the
healing. I believe there were probably some powerful
intercessors in your church that were in heavy prayer warfare
with God to try to get His healing power released into that
situation. And I’ll bet they were praying more than just one
time for this healing!
Conclusion
1. Liz, in my opinion, the above analogy with
the child and the paints perfectly describes what occurs in the
spiritual realm between us and God the Father. The Bible tells
us that we have a Father-child relationship with God the
Father. And I believe God would answer more of our prayers if
we would consider using the approach that the child did asking
his mom for the oil paints. The mom will grant the request all
because the child is continuing to press in and ask for it more
than one time.
I believe that if you approach God with this kind of
persistence, desire and determination - that you can create a
strong desire in God to want to answer your
specific prayer!
I believe the Holy Spirit gave me a real key in how you can
get God to answer more of your prayers - and that key is to
create a strong desire in God to want to
answer your prayer.
In the above analogy, the child creates a strong desire in
the mother to want to give him the oil paints simply because he
is asking more than one time - and that there is also a real
desire and earnestness behind his request.
I believe this same principle will apply to God the Father
depending on what it is we are asking Him for. You always have
to make sure that your specific prayer requests are in God’s
will for your life.
But if you do get an answer from the Lord that the prayer
request is in His will for you, and you get a good witness and
release from the Holy Spirit to approach God with the request -
then my advice to you would be not to be afraid to approach the
throne of God more than one time for a specific request -
especially if you have a very strong desire for the prayer
request to be granted.
The earnest desire that you have for the prayer
request, coupled with the persistence that you will show
God by continuing to press into Him and asking Him more
than one time - may just be the one-two punch you need to
get God to answer your specific prayer. And sometimes this
is exactly how major supernatural miracles are brought down
from heaven - by dogged persistence, determination, and
intense desire in the prayer room!
2. Like the Bible says, God can be reasoned
with. He says to come before Him to state your case. He says in
the Bible for His people to try and "take hold of Him" -
especially in the arena of prayer. I believe these verses are
implying that we can wrestle with God on certain matters - just
like Jacob and Moses did!
I believe the other verses stating "fervent prayer"
and "praying without ceasing" are also giving us
revelation that we can approach God with this type of
prevailing attitude in our prayer life with Him when the
situation dictates that we take this kind of an approach with
Him.
As you can tell, I firmly believe in the prayer principle of
praying more than just one time for certain prayer requests.
You just have to know when to take this kind of an approach
with God so you don’t wear yourself out by going into this kind
of prevailing prayer mode too often.
Bottom line - be led by the Holy Spirit in your prayer life
if you have established this kind of connection with Him. Let
Him lead you as to when you should pray, how often to pray, how
many times to pray and how intensely to pray.
If you have not quite established this kind of inner
connection with the Holy Spirit at this time, go ahead and pray
it out on whatever you feel is appropriate to approach God with
on your requests. And if you have the desire to want to
approach God and ask Him more than one time for a specific
request - then go for it! You will have absolutely nothing to
lose in taking this approach and everything to gain -
especially if it is something that you are really wanting from
God.
Liz, let me know if all of the above answers your question
on this issue or at least provides you with some additional
insight.
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